Bucks Diary

Monday, November 10, 2008

Return of the TWC boxscore; I'm pulling a New Coke reversal


I'm getting some negative feedback about my decision to pull the plug on the Total Win Contribution boxscore. I also noticed a downward trend in Returning Visitors after I nixed it, and I assume all the missing returnees were Bucks fans disappointed by the change. Plus I think I'm confusing the shit out of people by creating new statistics that are too similar in form to other statistics I use, when they are meant to be different in meaning.

So I'm going to go back to doing the TWC boxscores after Bucks games. I don't promise them immediately after the game, but I'll try to get them done at least by the next day.

213 Comments:

At November 10, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We know these are a ton of work, but we really appreciate them.

After reading them in the preseason, it really appears that you are on to something with the TWC boxscore.

It has been the only "how'd this guy do in this game on offense and defense" stat system I've seen that made sense.

 
At November 10, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

^^^^^

Yes, I agree. This system is a lot more accurate.

And I you shouldn't do a TWC boxscore for EVERY game just for like every 2 or 3 to give us an update of how the players are looking. Or you could do the TWC boxscores against playoff contenders, that would give us an idea of how our players are looking against teams like that.

 
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I agree with Blake. If it's too much to do everygame, maybe just do an average for the week or against key matchups.

Maybe save your newer stat system for when more games have been played. I think that one would be more telling after the all-star break when each team has played each other at least once.

Keep up the good work. We all really appreciate it.

 
At November 10, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just calculate them for games where the players you like did well and forget to calculate them for games where players you like stink. That's how we'd do it over at RealGM.... :)

 
At November 11, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could always do a quick, basic Winscore or WS/MIN for the night of the game. That's a quick and easy spread sheet to do, then do a TWC analysis every five games.

 
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If I wasn't clear...

by "do a TWC analysis every 5 games"

I means "do a TWC in blocks of 5 games" so essentially calculate offensive contribution for the 5 games as one number...then same for defensive contribution, etc.

 
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